TheBanyanTree: stop the presses!
tobie at shpilchas.net
tobie at shpilchas.net
Sat Jan 6 16:11:49 PST 2024
Gad Zooks!
Many of us remember Julie from Nerdnosh days, then Spoon and this current incarnation. Well known. Recognizable from the first words.
I am trying to catch up after my "office" was dismantled for a few days and I find that "little Julie Anna Teague" is retiring. Although you are not exactly the retiring type, I commend your attempt to try slowing down. It’s good not just to slam on the brakes or put it in reverse when you’re going 70 mph.
I read the list, your list of qualifying criteria and there was something you sort of glossed over. Little Julie Anna Teague is a phenomenal writer, deep, ironic, funny, generous, keenly observant and whole. We are all waiting to read what you have to tell us about life in the next to the fast lane.
Long may you wave,
Love,
Tobie
> On Jan 6, 2024, at 6:30 AM, Kitty Park via TheBanyanTree <thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com> wrote:
>
> Julie, I have no words (which is why it has taken me so long to comment)
> for your retirement plans. Building a business at the top of a long list,
> WOW! When they say retire, I don’t think this is what they had in mind!
> But it’s your time to finally do YOU! Yahoo!!
>
> Kitty
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:27 AM Pam James via TheBanyanTree <
> thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com <mailto:thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com>> wrote:
>
>> oh no Julie!! I LOVE the passion and I am always amazed! And I get the
> same way when / if I get started on 'my kids'!
>
> All I really is my walkway and it's got loads of gorgeous lilies that grow
> tall, bloom gorgeously, then die and leave ugly stalks behind to rot...
>
> I thought I would put a little corner garden area in my backyard. Whenfor
>
>>
>> Carla was here we covered the area in cardboard and I 'edged' it off with
>> stone-thingies from Lowe's, and then added a couple of bushes that Carla
>> said the butterflies would love, and covered the whole thing in mulch to
>> sit until spring. Standing at my back door, it was in the far left
>> corner. Nobody ever goes there because all the action is in the far-right
>> corner (hahahah) where the other dogs are to bark at!!! I built it all in
>> the safe corner.
>>
>> And now it's where Bella goes to poop, and by the way, both bushes are
>> down.... they may or may not grow back, but so far I have a corner of
>> mulch... it's gorgeous!!
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:19 AM Teague, Julie Anna via TheBanyanTree <
>> thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com <mailto:thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> No worries, Pam. There are easy things to grow. And the cut flower
>>> business is just a whole 'nother level of work so they have long stems
>> and
>>> a long vase-life and different varieties than you find as plants at the
>>> nursery. Ain't nobody got time for that unless you are planning on
>> making
>>> a buck off the effort. My old method of having a nice flower garden: 1.
>>> throw some plants in the ground and the ones that live, live, and 2. Go
>> to
>>> the flower nursery in May like ever-buddy else and get whatever they got.
>>> In other words, I was pretty much like you until I went nuts on this
>> thing,
>>> and I still managed to have flowers blooming. Okay, maybe I've been
>>> somewhat nuts about it for a long time. But you can have flowers, too,
>> with
>>> just the method you are using. Although I think I mentioned to you, Pam,
>>> that I could get you a list of things that can be treated like old shoes
>>> and still thrive in your garden. The ONE rule you can't really ignore in
>>> gardening at any level is "Right plant in the right place."
>>>
>>> And now I'll cease and desist on the gardening talk. I'm hell at
>>> parties--you don't want to get me going on the subject. Most of my
>> victims
>>> start nodding off and heading to the drinks table after five minutes.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TheBanyanTree <thebanyantree-bounces at lists.remsset.com <mailto:thebanyantree-bounces at lists.remsset.com>> On Behalf
>>> Of Pam James via TheBanyanTree
>>> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 7:53 AM
>>> To: A comfortable place to meet other people and exchange your own
>>> *original* writings. <thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com <mailto:thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com>>
>>> Cc: Pam James <pamjamesagain at gmail.com <mailto:pamjamesagain at gmail.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: TheBanyanTree: stop the presses!
>>>
>>> So you just killed me on ever wanting a flower again!!
>>> holytediouscrap!!!!!!!!!! NO WONDER I could never get much to grow
>> around
>>> here!!
>>>
>>> If they weren't tough enough to land in any ole sized hole, at any ole
>>> whatever depth, then they just didn't have what it took to survive my
>> vida
>>> loca!!!!!
>>>
>>> hahahahahaa!!! I brain can't do all that and I so freaking applaud the
>>> wiring in your brain that DOES!!!!!!!!! Rock on Jules!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 5:08 PM Teague, Julie Anna via TheBanyanTree <
>>> thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com <mailto:thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linda asked, are they micro mini flowers that I'm growing?
>>>> Ha. No, just a micro-mini sized "farm". There will be some very big,
>>>> beautiful flowers (God willing and the creek don't rise) and some
>>>> micro-mini flowers. There will be lots of flowers of all sizes and
>>>> colors. Everywhere I can squeeze in a flower on my .3 acres (minus
>>>> house), I'm squeezing one in. First up: daffodils of many varieties.
>>>> I've planted
>>>> 200 or 300, I've lost count, and tulips, both the elegant, single,
>>>> long-stemmed types and the fancy frilly types. I prefer the single
>>>> long-stemmed beauties. I've planted 600. I think. I have records of
>>> all
>>>> of this somewhere. These have all been planted as bulbs in the Autumn
>>> and
>>>> thank God we had a long autumn. I also have ranunculus which grow
>>>> from corms that look like a tiny octopi. I've been growing them in
>>>> low tunnels since late Fall and babying them along, covering and
>>>> uncovering them at mother nature's whim. They like cold, but not too
>>>> cold. They don't like a lot of wind. They like water, but not
>>>> standing water, and god forbid you get their leaves wet and don't give
>>>> them enough air circulation to get dry. They are one of the
>>>> Goldilocks of the flower world but I love them beyond reason. This is
>>>> my first time growing ranunculus, so it's all a big, somewhat
>>>> expensive experiment, and really, if you have any mojo to spare, send
>> it
>>> to my ranunculus patch, I beg you.
>>>>
>>>> As for annuals, I'm growing snapdragons (my favorite), zinnias,
>>>> sunflowers, lisianthus, cosmos, love-in-a-mist, sweet peas, feverfew,
>>>> daucus, dill, ammi, poppies, scabiosa (a terrible name for a flower,
>>>> IMO), angelonia, buplurem (excuse me), and many, many dahlias--which
>>>> are actually perennial here only if one can keep the corms alive in
>>>> one of the complicated and highly debated methods usually involving
>>>> being dug up at the exact right stage, separated at exact points with
>>>> a large, sharp, sterilized knife, and stored at exactly 35 to 45F
>>>> degrees and at least 80 percent humidity. I'm not making any of this
>>>> up. Dahlias are a ridiculous amount of work in my zone but they are
>>>> the main flower of most flower farmers because man do they bloom.
>>>> They bloom until you are almost (but never entirely) tired of them
>>>> blooming. Most dahlias have names and are collected by dahlia freaks.
>>>> I mean lovers. I can't get my hands on a Kelgai Anne at any price but
>>> anyone will sell me Linda's Baby. Even Linda.
>>>> I will probably get a year out of them and then kill them all in
>> storage.
>>>> I have some withering in storage right now, in fact. All of this
>> stuff
>>>> needs to be staked or netted or nursed, started from seed on certain
>>>> dates and moved out on other certain dates, all based on a last frost
>>>> date which is never the same date two years running and can vary by a
>>>> month. The seeds need darkness to germinate or they need light to
>>>> germinate--and don't mix that up or you get zilch--and must be allowed
>>>> to sprout on a heat mat unless they are the ones who despise any kind
>>>> of heat and must be kept at a comfy, cool 65F. There are those that
>>>> must be started in pots indoors to have a snowball's chance in hell,
>>>> and those that can only be started in the ground because their roots
>>>> must not be disturbed at all costs. It's a miracle that the world has
>>>> a bounty of lovely cut flowers, is all I'm saying. If I end up with a
>>> few handfuls, I should consider myself lucky.
>>>> I've got a stack of books and five thousand internet bookmarks, all of
>>>> which I'm reading and reviewing and researching nearly any minute that
>>>> I'm not working/eating/sleeping.
>>>>
>>>> All of these tricky-trickster annuals, the meat and potatoes of any
>>>> flower business of any size down to micro-mini, are built around a
>>>> foundation of perennials I've planted and have been keeping happy for
>>>> two years now at the "new" old house. The "new" old house had nary a
>>>> plant other than one very ancient lilac and a few scruffy, prickly,
>>>> ugly shrubs that need to be dug out. I have several roses now--two
>>>> el-cheapo floribunda roses that bloom their pea-pickin' hearts out
>>>> despite being the commoners of the rose world, readily available at
>>>> Kroger or Home Depot, or maybe because they are the commoners of the
>>>> rose world. They try hard and refuse to be humbled despite living
>>>> cheek by jowl with seven heirloom or David Austen roses--roses with
>>>> names and pedigrees. Two more will arrive with their lineage papers
>>>> in the Spring. Our Lady of Shallot and Anne Harkness shall join HRH
>>>> Queen of Sweden, who is currently slumming out back with the likes of
>>>> Hot Cocoa (that tart!) and the rest of the gang. I should really give
>>>> names to the floribundas---I think Nelda (red) and Patsy (orangey
>>>> pink) will work. I'm putting in Heritage mums for late October blooms
>>>> (they probably have names but I'm trying not to get too attached yet),
>>>> peonies (which definitely have names which one really should
>>>> remember), coneflower, daisies, alliums, achillea, buddleia, lavender,
>>> sage, false indigo, foxglove, geum, and natives like joe pye weed,
>>> larkspur, and others.
>>>>
>>>> It's a lot. I feel like I'm working on a PhD in flower
>>>> growing/tending/harvesting. And don't get me started on harvesting.
>>>> Everything is harvested in a certain way, put into a certain temp of
>>>> water, at a certain time of day. Or else, they say! It's a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TheBanyanTree <thebanyantree-bounces at lists.remsset.com> On
>>>> Behalf Of LaLinda via TheBanyanTree
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 2:24 PM
>>>> To: A comfortable place to meet other people and exchange your own
>>>> *original* writings. <thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com>
>>>> Cc: LaLinda <twigllet at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: TheBanyanTree: stop the presses!
>>>>
>>>> OKAY!
>>>>
>>>> So, I gotta ask, are the flowers mini-micro?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 12:56 PM Teague, Julie Anna via TheBanyanTree <
>>>> thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Tree Folk, some of you have known me forever and a day, and
>>>>> during the whole time you've known me, I've been here at a computer
>>>>> screen, pressing my silly little keys and keeping my silly little
>>>>> life afloat by writing computer programs which ostensibly provide
>>>>> those-in-charge with the information they need to keep charging.
>>>>> Well, I did some calculations this morning. Or, rather, I opened
>>>>> the handy-dandy Excel spreadsheet in which I had previously coded
>>>>> and saved the calculations almost three years ago (when the numbers
>>>>> seemed impossibly high and nearly insurmountable). And what these
>>>>> calculations told me, in the form of a single number with a lot of
>>>>> backstory, is this--
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Little Julie Anna Teague,
>>>>>
>>>>> who was born into a dirt poor family in Nowheresville, Indiana
>>>>> (population 500), who has worked her entire life at jobs with
>>>>> varying degrees of meaningfulness, including almost 41 years for
>>>>> Indiana University, who has written a story or two, climbed a
>>>>> mountain or ten, and been owned by a cat or twenty (and currently
>>>>> one very spoiled dog), who has done yoga, breathwork, meditation,
>>>>> acupuncture, reiki, vision-boarding, primal screaming, long distance
>>>>> running, art therapy, sound therapy, talk therapy, and several
>>>>> things that were self-destructive but felt good at the time, who has
>>>>> loved and lost and loved again, ad nauseam, etc., and so forth, who
>>>>> has tried always to be kind and giving to her friends and family and
>>>>> animals and the environment and other good causes, who has scraped
>>>>> and saved, made do and paid off, re-used and re-grouped, eaten all
>>>>> the leftovers and composted all the scraps, and raised two damn good
>>>>> kids,
>>>>>
>>>>> has FORTY-NINE actual working days left in her working life at
>>>>> Indiana University.
>>>>>
>>>>> Forty-nine. LESS THAN FIFTY DAYS, FOLKS, and, to paraphrase the
>>>>> great MLK, I am free at last, free at last, Thank God Almighty, I am
>>>>> free at last to live my life no longer beholden to a forty hour work
>>>>> week or shackled to my computer with the proverbial golden handcuffs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get the key to the handcuffs in forty-nine days, and guess what,
>>>>> they aren't real gold anyway. I've mostly stopped worrying that
>>>>> I'll end up eating cat food, but getting my teeth cleaned twice a
>>>>> year will become my budget luxury item.
>>>>>
>>>>> And before anyone responds with, "You'll need a PLAN to get through
>>>>> your retired days." I think every person I've told has said that to
>>>>> me. No worries, I have plans. I have grandkids to nurture and am
>>>>> gaining two more in the Spring. I have reading, classes, art, and
>>>>> volunteering I want to do. And my big plan, already in the works
>>>>> for many months now, is that I'm starting a micro-sized flower farm
>>>>> in my urban back yard and will be selling at the Farmer's market.
>>>>> It is hard work, but it's the work of my heart and never feels like
>>>>> work. I can be in my garden all day every day, doing the crappiest
>>>>> of garden tasks, and come in exhausted and filthy and with my back
>>>>> aching, and it
>>>> still feels more like joy than work.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, that's where I'm at. Let the countdown commence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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At my first meeting of the faculty wives club of the University of California at Berkeley way back pre post feminism:
Other wife looking at my name tag: Hello. What does your husband do?
I: I’m a musician.
Other wife: No. I asked, "what does your husband do?"
I: He married a musician.
Tobie Helene Shapiro
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