TheBanyanTree: Writing
TLW
tlwagener at gmail.com
Mon Oct 15 13:13:21 PDT 2012
Oh, Jana! How lovely to read you! I have missed you, with only the snippets
on FB to keep us abreast.
Meaningful writing, indeed. You express your thoughts beautifully, and
they are so good and sound!
xoxoxoSidda.
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> It's been so long since this mostly lurker wrote a story.? Was beginning
> to wonder if I'm a writer at all (other than poetry - which has been
> missing for a year or so...)? Am so inspired by so many writers here who
> are finally completing/publishing books - a life's dream.? I remember back
> in the late 80s, when I went to work for the University (of La Verne) and
> discovered the internet, and got hooked up with a group called Nerdnosh.?
> So many memories, people, places, travels, meetings, couplings,
> re-groupings, changes, and most sadly, deaths of some wonderful people I'm
> blessed to have known/met/broken bread with (I love you, Terry, Youngblood,
> Dee, LD [a long lurker on all permutations of the list, but a dear and
> beloved friend])
> ? Still, deep within me, there is a need to write.? Has anyone seen the Ed
> Harris movie, "It's What I Am?".? That's how it feels.? I'm a writer.?
> That's who I am.
> ? For a couple years, I've felt a calling, a compulsion - "I *should*
> write a..." but the writing hasn't happened.
> ? Then things changed.? I found myself involved with an amazing church.? A
> small community here in Oregon - population 20,000.? We (the church) made
> the risky decision to use the entire Easter offering to go toward hunger -
> percentages to a local food bank, and to the Meru/Ruiri well project in
> Kenya - a community where children, instead of going to school, commonly
> spent their days trekking to critter-infested rivers to haul water for
> survival.? Building wells would provide water, allow the children to attend
> schools etc.? One well would serve a community of 10,000 people.?
> Detractors said the (elderly, impoverished) church would suffer if they
> sacrificed the Easter offering (one of the biggest of the year) but there
> were those who said, "I believe in a God of abundance."? We tried for a
> media presence - local newspaper articles, radio time (don't believe any
> materialized), web presence, FB site - whatever it took to invite the
> community and the
> world to join in "taking a bite out of hunger."? We put "decorated"
> coffee cans in local businesses.? Those didn't collect much...? One can
> contained 37c.? Another had a bit more than $15. - but it was amost all in
> nickels and pennies.? How many people were aware of and wanted to make a
> difference about world hunger?? Some who contributed a few pennies at a
> time.? At the end of the day, end of the month, how did it fare?? We raised
> over $20,000.00!? Enough went to Kenya to build 2 wells - sufficient to
> provide water for 20,000 people.? That number 20,000 begins to take on a
> "woo-woo" aspect.? A community of 20,000 raises $20,000.00 which provides
> water for 20,000 in Kenya, Africa, and additionally provides 20,000 meals
> for those who depend on the local food bank.? Serendipity?? Doesn't sound
> possible to me. (BTW, for the curious - the church did not suffer at all -
> the month's offerings withouth the Easter offering were the highest of the
> year.)
> ? So what does this have to do with writing?? Ah, me...? it's a long
> story,? We found the church after "retiring" to Oregon.? It had a senior
> pastor, and an associate pastor.? Senior pastor had led and participated in
> several annual trips to Kenya to work on projects amidst the abject
> poverty, and therefore brought the well projects to the forefront.?
> Associate pastor had somehow become a particular friend, with much in
> common, and dearly beloved by me.? It was she (Joyce) who pitched the
> "Hunger Bites" campaign.? When the subject went to church counsel to vote,
> mine was one of two dissenting.? The other felt the church would suffer by
> such generosity.? I voted "nay" (until it was decided where the money would
> go) because it was not giving enough.? Side note - the senior pastor, a few
> years earlier (just when we arrived here) took his retirement, and agreed
> to another appointment at the church sans salary in order to free the
> monies for the
> missions of the church.? So...? turned out that Senior pastor, Jim, was
> offered a volunteer position at the Methodist hospital in Kenya,
> coordinating volunteers etc., and accepted it...? which meant that we would
> once again need to pay a pastor's salary.? And since way leads on to way,
> that meant probably not being able to afford an associate pastor to focus
> on missional/congregational projects/needs.? So, in June, we said goodbye
> to pastor Jim, and in July, to associate pastor, Joyce.
> ? Pastor Joyce was the leader of our adult Sunday School, known as "The
> Forum".? It is a small group - maybe 6 - 12 participants, mostly seniors to
> quite elderly.? (Oh, yes, I am a senior now!)?? She was the one who
> generally selected the curriculum, lead the discussions etc.? On rare
> occasions when she would not be there on Sunday, she'd asked me to fill in
> for her.? I was perfectly willing.
> ? When we knew she'd be leaving, the question went to the group as to what
> to do about Forum.? The general consensus was "Why doesn't Jana take over -
> she does such a good job!!"? Huh????
> ? Then, there was the timing of all that...? My mother had had a stroke.?
> Bob and I had spent a month in CA caring for her, helping her in the
> recovery process.? We were exhausted, with most often as little as 3 hours
> sleep on any night, and 24/7 presence.? When we finally left, our urgency
> was returning back to Oregon before pastor Jim's last day.? To accomplish
> this, although Bob had surgery scheduled on Friday, we left late afternoon
> that day to complete the drive.? Wildfires added hours/miles, and after a
> midnight stopover, then a wee-M. continuation, we arrived home darn close
> to midnight in order to be at church in the morning.? Tough stuff.
> And that morning the entire group said I could lead the class until the
> new pastor decided what should be done with it.? Whatever.
> ? I had the catalog from the publisher, as we'd near finished the
> curriculum we were working on at the time.? I ordered 3 possibilities for
> the next set of lessons/discussions, and ended up selecting one called
> "Instant Small Group" designed to be week-by week, rather than a book
> participants must keep up with.? Seemed perfect as Summer attendance is
> traditionally spottier due to vacation/travel etc.? 52 weeks of lessons.?
> Folks love them, and loved the way I put them together!? (One week we baked
> a pie; we've played with play-dough, drawn, colored, done fortunes for
> fortune cookies etc.!)? My theory is get people engaged and talking -
> that's how I can learn.? Somewhere in the process (grandkids birthdays,
> other events, general messiness) the book was lost.? Aiiiiiieeeeeee!? Here
> is was Friday night, and I had no discussion guide for Sunday.? Bob and I
> searched everywhere.? No book.? I ordered a replacement.? It's not to this
> date arrived -
> some 3 weeks later.? Huh?? So, having given up on the search, I faked
> it.? I wrote my own.?
> ? Slam dunk!? The discussion was so animated it required we stretch the
> discussion to an extra week.? Folks loved it so much they got excited about
> it - and started spreading the word to others to come.? Pastor had so far
> not had any input at all, other than a "it's going great - carry on."?
> Huh?? This was a temporary commitment.
> ? Whatever...? seems this is where I am, and that I'm writing again...?
> but what I'm writing is study guidelines for small groups for the Christian
> left - groups that are willing to take faith and beliefs to a deeper level
> and question what it really all means.
> ? I'd share my writing, but think many would find it offensive, and many
> would find it boring.? I'll leave that up to all of you.? But...? the
> bottom line is, after years of drought, and years of should/could/would, I
> am writing again.
> ?
> Peace & blessings,
> Jana
> ?
> ?
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:27:08 -0400
> From: Sachet <MountainWhisper at att.net>
> To: "A comfortable place to meet other people and exchange your own
> *original* writings." <thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com>
> Subject: Re: TheBanyanTree: Writing
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> I would love to read anything you write, Jana. This post was wonderful
> to read and I look forward to more.
>
> Glad to see you back writing hugs!
>
> On 10/14/2012 12:05 AM, Indiglow wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It's been so long since this mostly lurker wrote a story. Was beginning
> to wonder if I'm a writer at all (other than poetry - which has been
> missing for a year or so...) Am so inspired by so many writers here who
> are finally completing/publishing books - a life's dream. I remember back
> in the late 80s, when I went to work for the University (of La Verne) and
> discovered the internet, and got hooked up with a group called Nerdnosh.
> So many memories, people, places, travels, meetings, couplings,
> re-groupings, changes, and most sadly, deaths of some wonderful people I'm
> blessed to have known/met/broken bread with (I love you, Terry, Youngblood,
> Dee, LD [a long lurker on all permutations of the list, but a dear and
> beloved friend])
> > Still, deep within me, there is a need to write. Has anyone seen the
> Ed Harris movie, "It's What I Am?". That's how it feels. I'm a writer.
> That's who I am.
> > For a couple years, I've felt a calling, a compulsion - "I *should*
> write a..." but the writing hasn't happened.
> > Then things changed. I found myself involved with an amazing church.
> A small community here in Oregon - population 20,000. We (the church)
> made the risky decision to use the entire Easter offering to go toward
> hunger - percentages to a local food bank, and to the Meru/Ruiri well
> project in Kenya - a community where children, instead of going to school,
> commonly spent their days trekking to critter-infested rivers to haul water
> for survival. Building wells would provide water, allow the children to
> attend schools etc. One well would serve a community of 10,000 people.
> Detractors said the (elderly, impoverished) church would suffer if they
> sacrificed the Easter offering (one of the biggest of the year) but there
> were those who said, "I believe in a God of abundance." We tried for a
> media presence - local newspaper articles, radio time (don't believe any
> materialized), web presence, FB site - whatever it took to invite the
> community and the
> > world to join in "taking a bite out of hunger." We put "decorated"
> coffee cans in local businesses. Those didn't collect much... One can
> contained 37c. Another had a bit more than $15. - but it was amost all in
> nickels and pennies. How many people were aware of and wanted to make a
> difference about world hunger? Some who contributed a few pennies at a
> time. At the end of the day, end of the month, how did it fare? We raised
> over $20,000.00! Enough went to Kenya to build 2 wells - sufficient to
> provide water for 20,000 people. That number 20,000 begins to take on a
> "woo-woo" aspect. A community of 20,000 raises $20,000.00 which provides
> water for 20,000 in Kenya, Africa, and additionally provides 20,000 meals
> for those who depend on the local food bank. Serendipity? Doesn't sound
> possible to me. (BTW, for the curious - the church did not suffer at all -
> the month's offerings withouth the Easter offering were the highest of the
> > year.)
> > So what does this have to do with writing? Ah, me... it's a long
> story, We found the church after "retiring" to Oregon. It had a senior
> pastor, and an associate pastor. Senior pastor had led and participated in
> several annual trips to Kenya to work on projects amidst the abject
> poverty, and therefore brought the well projects to the forefront.
> Associate pastor had somehow become a particular friend, with much in
> common, and dearly beloved by me. It was she (Joyce) who pitched the
> "Hunger Bites" campaign. When the subject went to church counsel to vote,
> mine was one of two dissenting. The other felt the church would suffer by
> such generosity. I voted "nay" (until it was decided where the money would
> go) because it was not giving enough. Side note - the senior pastor, a few
> years earlier (just when we arrived here) took his retirement, and agreed
> to another appointment at the church sans salary in order to free the
> monies for the
> > missions of the church. So... turned out that Senior pastor, Jim,
> was offered a volunteer position at the Methodist hospital in Kenya,
> coordinating volunteers etc., and accepted it... which meant that we would
> once again need to pay a pastor's salary. And since way leads on to way,
> that meant probably not being able to afford an associate pastor to focus
> on missional/congregational projects/needs. So, in June, we said goodbye
> to pastor Jim, and in July, to associate pastor, Joyce.
> > Pastor Joyce was the leader of our adult Sunday School, known as "The
> Forum". It is a small group - maybe 6 - 12 participants, mostly seniors to
> quite elderly. (Oh, yes, I am a senior now!) She was the one who
> generally selected the curriculum, lead the discussions etc. On rare
> occasions when she would not be there on Sunday, she'd asked me to fill in
> for her. I was perfectly willing.
> > When we knew she'd be leaving, the question went to the group as to
> what to do about Forum. The general consensus was "Why doesn't Jana take
> over - she does such a good job!!" Huh???
> > Then, there was the timing of all that... My mother had had a
> stroke. Bob and I had spent a month in CA caring for her, helping her in
> the recovery process. We were exhausted, with most often as little as 3
> hours sleep on any night, and 24/7 presence. When we finally left, our
> urgency was returning back to Oregon before pastor Jim's last day. To
> accomplish this, although Bob had surgery scheduled on Friday, we left late
> afternoon that day to complete the drive. Wildfires added hours/miles, and
> after a midnight stopover, then a wee-M. continuation, we arrived home darn
> close to midnight in order to be at church in the morning. Tough stuff.
> > And that morning the entire group said I could lead the class until the
> new pastor decided what should be done with it. Whatever.
> > I had the catalog from the publisher, as we'd near finished the
> curriculum we were working on at the time. I ordered 3 possibilities for
> the next set of lessons/discussions, and ended up selecting one called
> "Instant Small Group" designed to be week-by week, rather than a book
> participants must keep up with. Seemed perfect as Summer attendance is
> traditionally spottier due to vacation/travel etc. 52 weeks of lessons.
> Folks love them, and loved the way I put them together! (One week we
> baked a pie; we've played with play-dough, drawn, colored, done fortunes
> for fortune cookies etc.!) My theory is get people engaged and talking -
> that's how I can learn. Somewhere in the process (grandkids birthdays,
> other events, general messiness) the book was lost. Aiiiiiieeeeeee! Here
> is was Friday night, and I had no discussion guide for Sunday. Bob and I
> searched everywhere. No book. I ordered a replacement. It's not to this
> date arrived -
> > some 3 weeks later. Huh? So, having given up on the search, I faked
> it. I wrote my own.
> > Slam dunk! The discussion was so animated it required we stretch the
> discussion to an extra week. Folks loved it so much they got excited about
> it - and started spreading the word to others to come. Pastor had so far
> not had any input at all, other than a "it's going great - carry on." Huh?
> This was a temporary commitment.
> > Whatever... seems this is where I am, and that I'm writing again...
> but what I'm writing is study guidelines for small groups for the
> Christian left - groups that are willing to take faith and beliefs to a
> deeper level and question what it really all means.
> > I'd share my writing, but think many would find it offensive, and
> many would find it boring. I'll leave that up to all of you. But... the
> bottom line is, after years of drought, and years of should/could/would, I
> am writing again.
> >
> > Peace& blessings,
> > Jana
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:36:39 -0400
> From: Pam Lawley <pamj.lawley at gmail.com>
> To: "A comfortable place to meet other people and exchange your own
> *original* writings." <thebanyantree at lists.remsset.com>
> Subject: Re: TheBanyanTree: Writing
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> Interesting... the really cool, cool part of all of this is the
> 'delete' button. Having said that, I'm trying to figure out where the
> 'offensive' part would come from.... I've taken offense to some things
> I've read here (that had nothing to do with religion or politics!),
> and I've just deleted the post! (neat how that works!) And I figure
> there were others who took no offense at all and enjoyed reading.
>
> A friend said, (and I'm paraphrasing because I can't remember the
> exact words), 'we're aren't a support group who writes, we're a
> writer's group who supports'... That might not be totally applicable
> here, but I think the last part definitely is! We support all
> writing!! All writers! And it's also been my experience, that when
> one writes, sometimes it's just the nudge another needs to get writing
> as well!!!
>
> All of that Jana, to say - I loved this post, and I can't imagine not
> enjoying your next!! So write no sister!! :)
>
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Sachet <MountainWhisper at att.net> wrote:
> > I would love to read anything you write, Jana. This post was wonderful to
> > read and I look forward to more.
> >
> > Glad to see you back writing hugs!
> >
> >
> > On 10/14/2012 12:05 AM, Indiglow wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It's been so long since this mostly lurker wrote a story. Was beginning
> >> to wonder if I'm a writer at all (other than poetry - which has been
> missing
> >> for a year or so...) Am so inspired by so many writers here who are
> finally
> >> completing/publishing books - a life's dream. I remember back in the
> late
> >> 80s, when I went to work for the University (of La Verne) and
> discovered the
> >> internet, and got hooked up with a group called Nerdnosh. So many
> memories,
> >> people, places, travels, meetings, couplings, re-groupings, changes, and
> >> most sadly, deaths of some wonderful people I'm blessed to have
> >> known/met/broken bread with (I love you, Terry, Youngblood, Dee, LD [a
> long
> >> lurker on all permutations of the list, but a dear and beloved friend])
> >> Still, deep within me, there is a need to write. Has anyone seen the
> >> Ed Harris movie, "It's What I Am?". That's how it feels. I'm a writer.
> >> That's who I am.
> >> For a couple years, I've felt a calling, a compulsion - "I *should*
> >> write a..." but the writing hasn't happened.
> >> Then things changed. I found myself involved with an amazing church.
> >> A small community here in Oregon - population 20,000. We (the church)
> made
> >> the risky decision to use the entire Easter offering to go toward
> hunger -
> >> percentages to a local food bank, and to the Meru/Ruiri well project in
> >> Kenya - a community where children, instead of going to school, commonly
> >> spent their days trekking to critter-infested rivers to haul water for
> >> survival. Building wells would provide water, allow the children to
> attend
> >> schools etc. One well would serve a community of 10,000 people.
> Detractors
> >> said the (elderly, impoverished) church would suffer if they sacrificed
> the
> >> Easter offering (one of the biggest of the year) but there were those
> who
> >> said, "I believe in a God of abundance." We tried for a media presence
> -
> >> local newspaper articles, radio time (don't believe any materialized),
> web
> >> presence, FB site - whatever it took to invite the community and the
> >> world to join in "taking a bite out of hunger." We put "decorated"
> >> coffee cans in local businesses. Those didn't collect much... One can
> >> contained 37c. Another had a bit more than $15. - but it was amost all
> in
> >> nickels and pennies. How many people were aware of and wanted to make a
> >> difference about world hunger? Some who contributed a few pennies at a
> >> time. At the end of the day, end of the month, how did it fare? We
> raised
> >> over $20,000.00! Enough went to Kenya to build 2 wells - sufficient to
> >> provide water for 20,000 people. That number 20,000 begins to take on a
> >> "woo-woo" aspect. A community of 20,000 raises $20,000.00 which
> provides
> >> water for 20,000 in Kenya, Africa, and additionally provides 20,000
> meals
> >> for those who depend on the local food bank. Serendipity? Doesn't
> sound
> >> possible to me. (BTW, for the curious - the church did not suffer at
> all -
> >> the month's offerings withouth the Easter offering were the highest of
> the
> >> year.)
> >> So what does this have to do with writing? Ah, me... it's a long
> >> story, We found the church after "retiring" to Oregon. It had a senior
> >> pastor, and an associate pastor. Senior pastor had led and
> participated in
> >> several annual trips to Kenya to work on projects amidst the abject
> poverty,
> >> and therefore brought the well projects to the forefront. Associate
> pastor
> >> had somehow become a particular friend, with much in common, and dearly
> >> beloved by me. It was she (Joyce) who pitched the "Hunger Bites"
> campaign.
> >> When the subject went to church counsel to vote, mine was one of two
> >> dissenting. The other felt the church would suffer by such generosity.
> I
> >> voted "nay" (until it was decided where the money would go) because it
> was
> >> not giving enough. Side note - the senior pastor, a few years earlier
> (just
> >> when we arrived here) took his retirement, and agreed to another
> appointment
> >> at the church sans salary in order to free the monies for the
> >> missions of the church. So... turned out that Senior pastor, Jim,
> was
> >> offered a volunteer position at the Methodist hospital in Kenya,
> >> coordinating volunteers etc., and accepted it... which meant that we
> would
> >> once again need to pay a pastor's salary. And since way leads on to
> way,
> >> that meant probably not being able to afford an associate pastor to
> focus on
> >> missional/congregational projects/needs. So, in June, we said goodbye
> to
> >> pastor Jim, and in July, to associate pastor, Joyce.
> >> Pastor Joyce was the leader of our adult Sunday School, known as "The
> >> Forum". It is a small group - maybe 6 - 12 participants, mostly
> seniors to
> >> quite elderly. (Oh, yes, I am a senior now!) She was the one who
> >> generally selected the curriculum, lead the discussions etc. On rare
> >> occasions when she would not be there on Sunday, she'd asked me to fill
> in
> >> for her. I was perfectly willing.
> >> When we knew she'd be leaving, the question went to the group as to
> >> what to do about Forum. The general consensus was "Why doesn't Jana
> take
> >> over - she does such a good job!!" Huh??? Then, there was the
> timing of
> >> all that... My mother had had a stroke. Bob and I had spent a month
> in CA
> >> caring for her, helping her in the recovery process. We were exhausted,
> >> with most often as little as 3 hours sleep on any night, and 24/7
> presence.
> >> When we finally left, our urgency was returning back to Oregon before
> pastor
> >> Jim's last day. To accomplish this, although Bob had surgery scheduled
> on
> >> Friday, we left late afternoon that day to complete the drive.
> Wildfires
> >> added hours/miles, and after a midnight stopover, then a wee-M.
> >> continuation, we arrived home darn close to midnight in order to be at
> >> church in the morning. Tough stuff.
> >> And that morning the entire group said I could lead the class until the
> >> new pastor decided what should be done with it. Whatever.
> >> I had the catalog from the publisher, as we'd near finished the
> >> curriculum we were working on at the time. I ordered 3 possibilities
> for
> >> the next set of lessons/discussions, and ended up selecting one called
> >> "Instant Small Group" designed to be week-by week, rather than a book
> >> participants must keep up with. Seemed perfect as Summer attendance is
> >> traditionally spottier due to vacation/travel etc. 52 weeks of lessons.
> >> Folks love them, and loved the way I put them together! (One week we
> baked
> >> a pie; we've played with play-dough, drawn, colored, done fortunes for
> >> fortune cookies etc.!) My theory is get people engaged and talking -
> that's
> >> how I can learn. Somewhere in the process (grandkids birthdays, other
> >> events, general messiness) the book was lost. Aiiiiiieeeeeee! Here is
> was
> >> Friday night, and I had no discussion guide for Sunday. Bob and I
> searched
> >> everywhere. No book. I ordered a replacement. It's not to this date
> >> arrived -
> >> some 3 weeks later. Huh? So, having given up on the search, I faked
> >> it. I wrote my own. Slam dunk! The discussion was so animated it
> >> required we stretch the discussion to an extra week. Folks loved it so
> much
> >> they got excited about it - and started spreading the word to others to
> >> come. Pastor had so far not had any input at all, other than a "it's
> going
> >> great - carry on." Huh? This was a temporary commitment.
> >> Whatever... seems this is where I am, and that I'm writing again...
> >> but what I'm writing is study guidelines for small groups for the
> Christian
> >> left - groups that are willing to take faith and beliefs to a deeper
> level
> >> and question what it really all means.
> >> I'd share my writing, but think many would find it offensive, and
> many
> >> would find it boring. I'll leave that up to all of you. But... the
> bottom
> >> line is, after years of drought, and years of should/could/would, I am
> >> writing again.
> >> Peace& blessings,
> >> Jana
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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