TheBanyanTree: Fwd: [New post] Parkinson’s or Depression?

Pam James pamjamesagain at gmail.com
Tue Jan 28 04:11:49 PST 2020


what a lovely quote:  "Plant your flag and claim the planet.  I'll follow."

Yeah... I'm right behind her!

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 3:12 PM <tobie at shpilchas.net> wrote:

> Yo Monique, famous Depressive Parkinsonian Outcast,
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>         Sweetheart, When I read the first few paragraphs of your,
> "Parkinson’s or Depression?" (compare and contrast), I thought it was going
> in an entirely different direction.  But this could be personal.  The list
> of the special effects of Parkinson's pretty much paralleled the expected
> symptoms I experience with depression: social outcast, neurological damage
> (trust me), drooling inflexible mass in hospital bed, mistreat everyone,
> bowels damaged, falling over if not careful, etc.  Even the runny nose, but
> especially the need to run and hide.  The similarities continued: internal
> and external tremors, sleep all day, on or off, useful as a stalk of celery
> when off ………..  Or maybe I’ve been diagnosed incorrectly.
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>         Still, it was food for thought, though when I’m depressed I can do
> neither.  I think you have yourself a twofer. What good that does you is
> probably bupkess, but it saves on energy to get it all done in one package.
> Damn, woman, you have well exceeded your quota.  But if it’s any help, you
> are a spectacular writer, and if you think you're covering up cowardice,
> you sure look courageous to me. Plant your flag and claim the planet. I’ll
> follow.
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> Love,
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> Tobie
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>      Monique Colver posted: "Say I had one thing I could give up, either
> Parkinson's or Depression. This is all strictly theoretical of course. But
> I have several annoying things going on, and my contract allows me
> unlimited theoretical questions. Let's see. Parkinson's. Means I'm "
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> > Say I had one thing I could give up, either Parkinson's or Depression.
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> > This is all strictly theoretical of course. But I have several annoying
> things going on, and my contract allows me unlimited theoretical questions.
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> > Let's see. Parkinson's. Means I'm even more of a social outcast than
> usual, causes progressive neurological damage until I'm a drooling
> inflexible mass in a hospital bed, maybe with dementia, and I mistreat
> everyone I come into contact with. My bowels are damaged, I may fall over
> if I'm not careful, I can easily overdo my activities and then be unable to
> move much. My nose runs uncontrollably, making me want to hide, I get
> tremors internal and external, sometimes I can sleep all day. I can be on
> or off. When I'm on I can get lots of things done, and when I'm off I'm as
> useful as a stalk of celery. Less, actually. With celery you can put peanut
> butter on it and have a delightful snack. There's more, but no one wants to
> hear that.
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> > Hey, I saw a discussion where someone had asked if people object to the
> term "parkie," which people use to indicate they're part of this cool group
> of people with Parkinson's. I read the responses, and half were against and
> half for, generally speaking. If I've had a stroke we don't call ourselves
> strokies, do we? I'm not a fan, though anyone who wants to refer to
> themselves that way is free to do so. I'm all about choice. But I'm not
> just a person with Parkinson's.
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> > And Parkinson's is not a cute little disease that one can tie up in a
> label. It's complex and debilitating and everyone with it experiences it
> differently. I can laugh about it, but I'm not using a cute little name,
> and experience with groups has taught me that just using a name does not
> bind us together in any sort of way.
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> > Also, I don't do well in groups. Like I said, I'm accustomed to being an
> outcast. I am only in groups peripherally, if at all, and I'm never the
> person people think of when they want to do something with the group. Or
> without. Could be all the drooling.
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> > Depression, on the other hand, is puppies and rainbows. It can take away
> the will to live, the excitement of doing new things, the comfort
> of...existing. It can turn into anger, sadness, crying, self-doubt, and
> thoughts of suicide. It's deadly. That's just me though. Since I've had it
> forever and it can also come with Parkinson's I feel doubly blessed. When
> it shows up, I think about it, I get sad, I start researching suicide (not
> how to do it, but like studying economics - how does it work and why) and I
> fight it. I'm told I can't, but I persist in it because life is hard enough.
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> > So given that choice, I'd get rid of depression. Depression can kill, if
> not physically, emotionally, socially, cheerfully. It can strip away all we
> know of human interaction and leave us as puddles of nothing, convinced
> we're unloved, unwanted, and useless. We become self-absorbed because all
> we can think of is ourselves and our rather negative outlook. In that
> state, who cares about others? It takes our laughter, and that's something
> I really enjoy. Parkinson's may make it harder to laugh, but it can't take
> the joy away. So yes, depression. That would go. I can figure out the rest
> as I go, especially if I don't have depression trying to get in under the
> canvas to the big top.
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> > Fortunately Marijuana is useful for both. I'm off Parkinson's meds
> because of it, and I sleep better also. And it helps with the depression
> because, whether I like it or not, there's no choice to be made. I get what
> I've got. Everyone gets something after all. At least I know where the
> train is coming from, and I know where it's headed.
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> > Meanwhile, once I get through January, I'll think of some more fun
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